Discussion:
Eagle with floats FOR SLAE
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Bill Pleasants
2003-12-14 23:53:11 UTC
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I have an American Aerolight Eagle that was stored indoors in the unopened
box till now. I set it up and it is like new and the engine runs (I
replaced the air filter and engine mounts). In addition to the wheel
landing gear, a set of floats is included. This was used once with another
Eagle and is like new. Here are the details:

Model Eagle 214B
Style Fire Eagle
Span 35 ft.
Weight 175 lb.
Pilot weight 90 - 180 lb.
Engine 215 cc Cuyuna
Drive Belt reduction with centrifugal clutch
Propeller 54 x 24 in. hardwood
Floats White fiberglass, 32 lb.
Price $2500, FOB Dahlonega, GA

Please reply to sender or call 770-718-9696.
AL
2003-12-17 05:44:10 UTC
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Bill, please try to find out if the stitching in the sail has the newer
modifications. The early Eagles killed a few people when (I think it was)
the trailing edge stitching came apart in flight.
--
Al Mills
Wake me before we take off...
Post by Bill Pleasants
I have an American Aerolight Eagle that was stored indoors in the unopened
box till now. I set it up and it is like new and the engine runs (I
replaced the air filter and engine mounts). In addition to the wheel
landing gear, a set of floats is included. This was used once with another
Model Eagle 214B
Style Fire Eagle
Span 35 ft.
Weight 175 lb.
Pilot weight 90 - 180 lb.
Engine 215 cc Cuyuna
Drive Belt reduction with centrifugal clutch
Propeller 54 x 24 in. hardwood
Floats White fiberglass, 32 lb.
Price $2500, FOB Dahlonega, GA
Please reply to sender or call 770-718-9696.
Mark Smith
2003-12-17 13:35:31 UTC
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Post by AL
Bill, please try to find out if the stitching in the sail has the newer
modifications. The early Eagles killed a few people when (I think it was)
the trailing edge stitching came apart in flight.
--
Al Mills
actually, the material itself came apart,

this plane has no trailing edge, and the material is tightly held out
with a long sweeping curve which is the de facto trailing edge,

this material is loaded very heavily in tension,

the highest loads near the small enclosure sewn in for the fuel tank at
the center,

this is where most failed, allowing the material; to flap, and drag the
plane in a spiral decent to the ground,

this plane made the BRS what it is today,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

the fix is to sew a full span piece of belting across the traning edge,
under the existing material, so as to keep it out of the sun,,,,,,,,,,,,

also, reinforcing the tank area and the root of the sail helps with the
extra loads this area sees,

a new sail would have these changes for sure, I hope,,,,,,,

but the lack of a hangar is/was the main culprit,,,,,,,,,,,


Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales http://www.trikite.com
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620 mailto:***@trikite.com
GASSITT
2003-12-21 17:00:03 UTC
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TOO bad the world lives by hearsay , have you ever even seen an Eagle ,
probably not !! it wasn't the weight shift eagles that had the wing tearing
problem it was only the Eagle XL and the two place Double Eagle, most poeple
have never seen a Cuyuna run or fly , but can sure tell you how bad they are ,
that 215 Eagle is a great little plane and is car topable, i've had several of
all models of Eagles and even if the Eagle XL is flown right it will not come
apart it was the fuel leaking from the tank of a few of them that gave the wing
stitching a problem in that area !
Mark Smith
2003-12-22 20:31:11 UTC
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Post by GASSITT
TOO bad the world lives by hearsay , have you ever even seen an Eagle ,
probably not !! it wasn't the weight shift eagles that had the wing tearing
problem it was only the Eagle XL and the two place Double Eagle, most poeple
have never seen a Cuyuna run or fly , but can sure tell you how bad they are ,
that 215 Eagle is a great little plane and is car topable, i've had several of
all models of Eagles and even if the Eagle XL is flown right it will not come
apart it was the fuel leaking from the tank of a few of them that gave the wing
stitching a problem in that area !
right, never owned an eagle, repaired a bunch,

flew one once,

a double chrysler, prolly before your time,,,,,,

weight shift,

BTW, what was different about the single that made it safer from sun
damaging what was the trailing edge, ie, the fabric ?

heavier plane, and definitely the two seater, but what kept the single
ws from having the sail fail ?

a little less weight maybe, or not enough 'time in the sun' ?
--
Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales http://www.trikite.com
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620 mailto:***@trikite.com
AL
2003-12-23 06:06:19 UTC
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I did in fact own an XL and it didn't fail (ever that I know of). Hearsay is
talk, documented accidents such as are recorded on the NTSB website are not
hearsay. Denying reality doesn't make it any less real dude.
--
Al Mills
Wake me before we take off...
Post by GASSITT
TOO bad the world lives by hearsay , have you ever even seen an Eagle ,
probably not !! it wasn't the weight shift eagles that had the wing tearing
problem it was only the Eagle XL and the two place Double Eagle, most poeple
have never seen a Cuyuna run or fly , but can sure tell you how bad they are ,
that 215 Eagle is a great little plane and is car topable, i've had several of
all models of Eagles and even if the Eagle XL is flown right it will not come
apart it was the fuel leaking from the tank of a few of them that gave the wing
stitching a problem in that area !
Rick Sine
2003-12-24 15:23:48 UTC
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My first ultralight was an Eagle XL , Cuyuna powered. I had an absolute
blast in that plane. The trailing edge was single stitched and at that time
I never heard of any problems about it. It was when I was selling it that I
was told about the double stitch. As far as the motor....In the winter I
would richen it up slightly, but never had a problem out of it. I did keep
new belts(occasionally) and new plugs(religiously) in it. My tank never
leaked....I just spilled some once in awhile when fueling it. I really
enjoyed those calm evenings in it.....And wish that right now I was chasing
those deer around the fields again............... Rick
Post by AL
I did in fact own an XL and it didn't fail (ever that I know of). Hearsay is
talk, documented accidents such as are recorded on the NTSB website are not
hearsay. Denying reality doesn't make it any less real dude.
--
Al Mills
Wake me before we take off...
Post by GASSITT
TOO bad the world lives by hearsay , have you ever even seen an Eagle ,
probably not !! it wasn't the weight shift eagles that had the wing
tearing
Post by GASSITT
problem it was only the Eagle XL and the two place Double Eagle, most
poeple
Post by GASSITT
have never seen a Cuyuna run or fly , but can sure tell you how bad they
are ,
Post by GASSITT
that 215 Eagle is a great little plane and is car topable, i've had
several of
Post by GASSITT
all models of Eagles and even if the Eagle XL is flown right it will
not
Post by AL
come
Post by GASSITT
apart it was the fuel leaking from the tank of a few of them that gave
the
Post by AL
wing
Post by GASSITT
stitching a problem in that area !
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